Our Travel Jeans for shorter men are made from a lightweight, durable cotton twill with a bit of stretch for comfort and movement. Done in the same cut as our Johnny Jeans, these pants will spice up your wardrobe, give your denim a break, and keep you looking smart. No more sad, baggy pants!
Our Travel Jeans for shorter men are made from a lightweight, durable cotton twill with a bit of stretch for comfort and movement. Done in the same cut as our Johnny Jeans, these pants will spice up your wardrobe, give your denim a break, and keep you looking smart. No more sad, baggy pants!
Slim but not skinny, with proper ankle opening (same cut as our Johnny Jeans Slim Fit)
Inseams from 25 to 29 inches
98% cotton twill, 2% elastane
Classic 5-pocket styling
Leather PMNYC logo patch on the back of waistband
Machine wash cold, tumble dry low (or hang to dry)
Our model wears a size 30W x 27L and is 5'8"/160 lbs.
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Suiting
Johnny, Travel, and Premium Jeans Standard Fit
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
29
11 5/8
9 15/16
6 7/8
30
11 15/16
10 1/8
7
31
12 1/4
10 5/16
7 1/8
32
12 9/16
10 1/2
7 1/4
33
12 7/8
10 11/16
7 3/8
34
13 3/16
10 7/8
7 1/2
35
13 1/2
11 1/16
7 5/8
36
13 1/2
11 1/16
7 5/8
38
13 13/16
11 1/4
7 5/8
Johnny, Travel, and Premium Jeans Slim Fit
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28
10 13/16
9 1/2
6 3/8
29
11 1/8
9 11/16
6 1/2
30
11 7/16
9 7/8
6 5/8
31
11 3/4
10 1/16
6 3/4
32
12 1/16
10 1/4
6 7/8
33
12 3/8
10 7/16
7
34
12 11/16
10 5/8
7 1/8
35
13
10 13/16
7 1/4
36
13
10 13/16
7 1/4
38
13 5/16
11
7 3/8
Cords, Cargos, and Selvedge Jeans Universal Fit
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28
10 13/16
9 3/4
6 1/2
29
11 1/8
9 15/16
6 5/8
30
11 7/16
10 1/8
6 3/4
31
11 3/4
10 5/16
6 7/8
32
12 1/16
10 1/2
7
33
12 3/8
10 11/16
7 1/8
34
12 11/16
10 7/8
7 1/4
35
13
11 1/16
7 3/8
36
13 5/16
11 1/4
7 3/8
38
13 15/16
11 7/16
7 3/8
Chinos Standard Fit
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
29
11 7/8
9 3/4
6 3/4
30
12 3/16
9 15/16
6 7/8
31
12 1/2
10 1/8
7
32
12 13/16
10 5/16
7 1/8
33
13 1/8
10 1/2
7 1/4
34
13 7/16
10 11/16
7 3/8
35
13 3/4
10 7/8
7 1/2
36
14 1/16
11 1/16
7 1/2
38
14 11/16
11 7/16
7 5/8
Chinos Slim Fit
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28
11 1/16
9 5/16
6 3/8
29
11 3/8
9 1/2
6 1/2
30
11 11/16
9 11/16
6 5/8
31
12
9 7/8
6 3/4
32
12 5/16
10 1/16
6 7/8
33
12 5/8
10 1/4
7
34
12 15/16
10 7/16
7 1/8
35
13 1/4
10 5/8
7 3/16
36
13 9/16
10 13/16
7 1/4
38
14 3/16
11 3/16
7 3/8
Chino & Tech Shorts
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28
11
9 7/8
9 1/2
29
11 5/16
10 1/16
9 3/4
30
11 5/8
10 1/4
10
31
11 15/16
10 7/16
10 1/4
32
12 1/4
10 5/8
10 1/2
33
12 9/16
10 13/16
10 3/4
34
12 7/8
11
11
35
13 3/16
11 3/16
11 1/4
36
13 1/2
11 3/8
11 1/2
38
14 1/8
11 3/4
12
Workout Shorts
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28/30
12 3/8
9 1/8
10 1/16
30/32
12 7/8
9 3/8
10 1/2
32/34
13 3/8
9 5/8
10 15/16
34/36
13 7/8
9 7/8
11 3/8
36/38
14 3/8
10 1/8
11 13/16
Pajama Pants
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28/30
12
11 3/4
7 1/8
30/32
12 1/2
12
7 7/16
32/34
13
12 1/4
7 3/4
34/36
13 1/2
12 1/2
8 1/16
36/38
14
12 3/4
8 3/8
Everywhere Pants
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise (Exc. Gusset)
Leg Opening
28/30
11 3/8
9 3/8
6 5/8
30/32
12
9 5/8
6 7/8
32/34
12 5/8
9 7/8
7 1/8
34/36
13 1/4
10 1/8
7 3/8
36/38
13 7/8
10 3/8
7 5/8
Workout Jogger
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise (Exc. Gusset)
Leg Opening
28/30
11 1/4
10 1/4
4
30/32
11 3/4
10 3/4
4 1/2
32/34
12 1/4
11 1/4
5
34/36
12 3/4
11 3/4
5 1/2
36/38
13 1/4
12 1/4
6
All Day Sweatpants
Waist Size
Thigh
Rise
Leg Opening
28/30
10 1/2
10 1/4
5 1/4
30/32
11
10 3/4
5 1/2
32/34
11 1/2
11 1/4
5 3/4
34/36
12
11 3/4
6
36/38
12 1/2
12 1/4
6 1/4
Performance Jogger
Waist Size
Thigh
Rise
Leg Opening
28/30
11 1/8
8 7/8
5
30/32
11 3/4
9 1/4
5 1/4
32/34
12 3/8
9 5/8
5 1/2
34/36
13
10
5 3/4
36/38
13 5/8
10 3/8
6
Essex Dress Pants
Waist Size
Thigh
Rise
Leg Opening
28
11 11/16
9 9/16
7 1/8
29
12
9 3/4
7 1/4
30
12 5/16
9 15/16
7 3/8
31
12 5/8
10 1/8
7 1/2
32
12 15/16
10 5/16
7 5/8
33
13 1/4
10 1/2
7 3/4
34
13 9/16
10 11/16
7 7/8
35
13 7/8
10 7/8
8
36
13 7/8
11 1/16
8
38
14 3/16
11 1/16
8 1/8
Stretch Cotton Trousers
Waist Size
Thigh
Front Rise
Leg Opening
28
11 9/16
9 5/16
6 5/8
29
11 7/8
9 1/2
6 3/4
30
12 3/16
9 11/16
6 7/8
31
12 1/2
9 7/8
7
32
12 13/16
10 1/16
7 1/8
33
13 1/8
10 1/4
7 1/4
34
13 7/16
10 7/16
7 3/8
35
13 3/4
10 5/8
7 1/2
Everyday Shirt
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
15
26 1/2
31
2
36-37
15 1/2
27
31 1/2
3
37-38
16
27 1/2
32 1/2
4
38-40
16 1/2
28
33
2X
41-43
16 1/4
27 1/2
32
4X
42-44
17
28 1/2
33 1/2
4XL
44-46
17 3/4
29
34
Everyday Shirt Slim Fit
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
32-34
15
26 1/2
31
2
34-35
15 1/2
27
31 1/2
3
35-36
16
27 1/2
32 1/2
4
36-38
16 1/2
28
33
Weekend Shirt
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
15
25 1/2
31
2
36-37
15 1/2
26
31 1/2
3
37-38
16
26 1/2
32 1/2
4
38-40
16 1/2
27
33
2X
41-43
16 1/4
26 1/2
32
4X
42-44
17
27 1/2
33 1/2
4XL
44-46
17 3/4
28 1/2
34
Weekend Shirt Slim Fit
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
32-34
15
25 1/2
31
2
34-35
15 1/2
26
31 1/2
3
35-36
16
26 1/2
32 1/2
4
36-38
16 1/2
27
33
Dress Shirt
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
15
28 1/2
31 1/2
2
36-37
15 1/2
29
32
3
37-38
16
29 1/2
32 1/2
4
38-40
16 1/2
30
33
2X
41-43
16 1/4
29 1/2
32
4X
42-44
17
30 1/2
33 1/2
4XL
44-46
17 3/4
31
34
Dress Shirt Slim Fit
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
32-34
15
28 1/2
31
2
34-35
15 1/2
29
31 1/2
3
35-36
16
29 1/2
32 1/2
4
36-38
16 1/2
30
33
Short Sleever
Size
Fits Chest Size
Neck
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
15
25 1/2
17 1/4
2
36-37
15 1/2
26
17 1/2
3
37-38
16
26 1/2
17 3/4
4
38-40
16 1/2
27
18
2X
41-43
16 1/4
26 1/2
18
4X
42-44
17
27 1/2
18 3/8
James Polo
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
1
34-36
24 1/2
7 1/4
2
36-37
25
7 1/2
3
37-38
25 1/2
7 3/4
4
38-40
26
8
2X
41-43
25 1/2
7 1/2
4X
42-44
26 1/2
8
4XL
45-47
26 1/2
8
Short Sleeve Henley
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
1
34-36
23
7 1/4
2
36-37
23 1/2
7 1/2
3
37-38
24
7 3/4
4
38-40
24 1/2
8
2X
41-43
24
7 1/2
4X
42-44
25
8
4XL
45-47
25
8
Vintage Crew, V Neck T and Workout Shirts
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
1
34-36
24
7 1/4
2
36-37
24 1/2
7 1/2
3
37-38
25
7 3/4
4
38-40
25 1/2
8
2X
41-43
24 1/2
7 1/2
4X
42-44
25 1/2
8
4XL
45-47
25 1/2
8
Long Sleeve Polo
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
25
31 1/2
2
36-37
25 1/2
32
3
37-38
26
32 1/2
4
38-40
26 1/2
33
2X
41-43
25
32 1/4
4X
42-44
27
33 1/4
4XL
45-47
27
33 3/4
Slub Pocket T
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
1
34-36
24
7 1/4
2
36-37
24 1/2
7 1/2
3
37-38
25
7 3/4
4
38-40
25 1/2
8
2X
41-43
24 1/2
7 1/2
4X
42-44
25 1/2
8
4XL
45-47
25 1/2
8
Long Sleeve Henley
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23
30 3/4
2
36-37
23 1/2
31 1/4
3
37-38
24
31 3/4
4
38-40
24 1/2
32 1/4
2X
41-43
24
31 1/2
4X
42-44
25
32 1/2
4XL
45-47
25
33 1/4
Polartec Waffle Shirt
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
30 1/4
2
36-37
24 1/2
30 3/4
3
37-38
25
31 1/4
4
38-40
25 1/2
31 3/4
2X
41-42
25
31 1/2
3X
42-43
25 1/2
31 3/4
4X
43-44
26
32
4XL
45-47
26
32 1/2
Long Sleeve T
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
1
34-36
23
23
2
36-37
23 1/2
23 3/8
3
37-38
24
23 5/8
4
38-40
24 1/2
24
2X
41-43
24
23
4X
42-44
25
23 1/4
4XL
45-47
25
23 1/2
Merino Wool Sweaters
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
30 1/4
2
36-37
24
30 3/4
3
37-38
24 1/2
31
4
38-40
25
31 3/4
2X
41-43
24 1/2
31
4X
42-44
25 1/2
32
Classic, Pullover, and Performance Hoodie
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
30 3/4
2
36-37
24
31 1/4
3
37-38
24 1/2
31 3/4
4
38-40
25
32 1/4
2X
41-43
24 1/2
31 3/4
4X
42-44
25 3/4
32 3/4
Cotton Cardigan
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
30 1/2
2
36-37
24
31
3
37-38
24 1/2
31 1/4
4
38-40
25
32
2X
41-43
24 1/2
31 1/4
4X
42-44
25 1/2
32 1/4
Cotton Quarter Zip
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
29 7/8
2
36-37
24
30 1/2
3
37-38
24 1/2
31 1/8
4
38-40
25
31 3/4
2X
41-43
24 1/2
30 3/4
4X
42-44
25 1/2
32
Performance Quarter Zip
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
24 1/2
29 3/4
2
36-37
25
30 1/2
3
37-38
25 1/2
31 1/4
4
38-40
26
32
2X
41-43
27
32 3/4
4X
42-44
28
33 1/2
4XL
45-47
28
34 1/4
Shawl Collar Sweater
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 5/8
29 1/2
2
36-37
24
30 1/8
3
37-38
24 3/8
30 3/4
4
38-40
24 3/4
31 1/4
2X
41-43
24 3/8
30 1/2
4X
42-44
25 1/4
31 3/4
Cotton Pullover
Size
Fits Chest Size
Body Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
23 1/2
30 1/4
2
36-37
24 1/2
30 3/4
3
37-38
25
31 1/4
4
38-40
25 1/2
31 3/4
2X
41-43
25
31 1/2
4X
42-44
26
32 1/2
4XL
45-47
26
33 1/2
Milan Car Coat
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
30 3/4
31 7/8
2
36-37
31 1/4
32 3/8
3
37-38
31 3/4
32 7/8
4
38-40
32 1/4
33 3/8
2X
41-43
31 1/4
32 3/8
4X
42-44
32 1/4
33 3/8
4XL
45-47
32 1/4
33 5/8
Winter Parka
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
29 1/2
33
2
36-37
30
33 1/2
3
37-38
30 1/2
34
4
38-40
31
34 1/2
2X
41-43
30
34 1/16
4X
42-44
31
34 7/8
4XL
45-47
31
35 1/8
Field Jacket & Wax Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
26 1/8
31 1/2
2
36-37
26 3/4
32
3
37-38
27 3/8
32 1/2
4
38-40
28
33
2X
41-43
26 3/4
32
4X
42-44
28
33
4XL
45-47
28
33 1/4
Tech Rain Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
26 1/8
31 1/2
2
36-37
26 3/4
32
3
37-38
27 3/8
32 1/2
4
38-40
28
33
2X
41-43
26 3/4
32
4X
42-44
28
33
4XL
45-47
28
33 1/4
Bomber Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
25
32
2
36-37
25 1/2
32 3/4
3
37-38
26
33 1/4
4
38-40
26 1/2
33 3/4
2X
41-43
27
34 1/4
3X
42-43
27 1/2
34 3/4
4X
43-44
28
35 1/4
4XL
45-47
28 1/2
35 3/4
Fleece Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
22 7/8
30 5/8
2
36-37
23 3/8
31 1/8
3
37-38
23 7/8
31 5/8
4
38-40
24 3/8
32 1/8
2X
41-43
23 7/8
31 1/2
4X
42-44
24 7/8
32 3/4
4XL
45-47
24 7/8
33 1/8
Quilted Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
24 1/8
31 1/2
2
36-37
24 3/4
32
3
37-38
25 3/8
32 1/2
4
38-40
26
33
2X
41-42
24 3/4
32
3X
42-43
25 3/8
32 3/8
4X
43-44
26
33
4XL
45-47
26
33
Carnegie Coat
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
30 3/4
31 7/8
2
36-37
31 1/4
32 3/8
3
37-38
31 3/4
32 7/8
4
38-40
32 1/4
33 3/8
2X
41-43
31 1/4
32 3/8
4X
42-44
32 1/4
33 3/8
4XL
45-47
32 1/4
33 5/8
Fulton Topcoat
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
32 1/2
31 1/2
2
36-37
33 1/8
32
3
37-38
33 3/4
32 1/2
4
38-40
34 1/2
33
2X
41-43
33 1/8
32 1/2
4X
42-44
34 1/2
33 3/8
Corduroy Trucker Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
22 1/2
31 1/2
2
36-37
23
32
3
37-38
23 1/2
32 1/2
4
38-40
24
33
2X
41-43
23
33
4X
42-44
24
34
Leather Bomber Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
(Shoulder to Cuff)
1
34-36
25 1/2
23 3/4
2
36-37
26
24
3
37-38
26 1/2
24 1/4
4
38-40
27
24 1/2
2X
41-42
26
23 1/4
3X
42-43
26 1/2
23 5/8
4X
43-44
27
24
4XL
45-47
27
24
Lightweight Down Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
24 1/2
32 1/4
2
36-37
25
32 3/4
3
37-38
25 1/2
33 1/4
4
38-40
26
33 3/4
2X
41-43
25
32 3/4
4X
42-44
26
33 3/4
Flatiron Vest
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
1
34-36
25
2
36-37
25 1/2
3
37-38
26
4
38-40
26 1/2
2X
41-43
25 1/2
4X
42-44
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Back Length
Sleeve Length
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24
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25
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25 1/2
33 3/4
2X
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25 1/2
33
4X
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26 1/2
34
Stretch Cotton Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
26 1/4
22
2
36-37
27 1/4
22 3/4
3
37-38
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24
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Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
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26
22
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22 3/4
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23 1/2
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38-40
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24 1/4
2X
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22 3/4
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28
24 1/4
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28
24 1/4
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Back Length
Sleeve Length (From Shoulder)
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34-36
26
22
2
36-37
27
22 3/4
3
37-38
27 1/2
23 1/2
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38-40
28
24 1/4
2X
41-43
27
22 3/4
4X
42-44
28
24 1/4
Essex Dress Pants
Waist Size
Thigh
Rise
Leg Opening
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11 11/16
9 9/16
7 1/8
29
12
9 3/4
7 1/4
30
12 5/16
9 15/16
7 3/8
31
12 5/8
10 1/8
7 1/2
32
12 15/16
10 5/16
7 5/8
33
13 1/4
10 1/2
7 3/4
34
13 9/16
10 11/16
7 7/8
35
13 7/8
10 7/8
8
36
13 7/8
11 1/16
8
38
14 3/16
11 1/16
8 1/8
Stretch Cotton Jacket
Size
Fits Chest Size
Back Length
Sleeve Length
1
34-36
26 1/4
22
2
36-37
27 1/4
22 3/4
3
37-38
27 3/4
22 3/8
4
38-40
28 1/4
24
Stretch Cotton Pants
Waist Size
Thigh
Rise
Leg Opening
28
11
9 1/4
6 5/8
29
11 5/16
9 7/16
6 3/4
30
11 5/8
9 5/8
6 7/8
31
11 15/16
9 13/16
7
32
12 1/4
10
7 1/8
33
12 9/16
10 3/16
7 1/4
34
12 7/8
10 3/8
7 3/8
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Review by David K. on 17 Apr 2025review stating Returned
Although the quality of this Blazer was terrific the fit for my body was not. The two were not compatible. The waist was too tight and the shoulders too large. I took it to my seamstress but she said she could not fix it to my satisfaction.
The return was easy and I will purchase from Peter Manning again.
Review by Anthony R. on 13 Apr 2025review stating Amazing quality
I’m always amazed of quality of materials used by PMNY. These 100% wool dress pants are pleasing to the eye and comfortable. They’re also have a good weight for all seasons.
Review by Gerald P. on 11 Apr 2025review stating Good Fit
This Henley is comfortably snug through the middle as I prefer for an underlayer. It is not "dark black" but more of a charcoal or even very dark gray.
Review by Gerald P. on 11 Apr 2025review stating Perfect fit!
The shirt fits perfectly as far as the length of the shirt tail, the width of the shoulders, and the length of the sleeves. I might be just a little tight through the middle, most likely due to the extra pounds I have right through there. I would buy the shirt again, and I look forward to shopping Paul Manning more in the future.
